(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[US Open Round 3 - Bi Jang (9d) vs Myungwan Kim (8p)]PW[Bi Jang 9d]PB[Myungwan Kim8p]WR[9d]BR[8p]DT[2008-08-05]EV[US Open]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Todd Heidenreich]C[Faint31k [1d\]: so whose playing?
Violence [?\]: pairings not up yet.
Faint31k [1d\]: oh ok thx vio
Faint31k [1d\]: and thx for posting the game USGO2
USGO2 [-\]: Hello everyone, we should be starting shortly.
Violence [?\]: This match also looks interesting...
Faint31k [1d\]: whats Bs rank?
USGO2 [-\]: I am finding that out and will fill in the information.
Faint31k [1d\]: ok thx
Violence [?\]: Black is 8p
Faint31k [1d\]: is W pro or amatuer?
patrickb [-\]: W is technically an amatuer, I think
patrickb [-\]: former insei, perhaps?
road2hell [5d\]: yes
Yanick [16k\]: yeh
Faint31k [1d\]: what do u mean technically?
road2hell [5d\]: he is even double 9d^^
Faint31k [1d\]: no the first 9d is part of his name
deft [4d\]: pro level ama
Faint31k [1d\]: ok thx deft
Almdudler [3d\]: wow
road2hell [5d\]: maybe honorary ama9d^^
Almdudler [3d\]: w < b
Almdudler [3d\]: erm
Almdudler [3d\]: w > b
Almdudler [3d\]: ><
USGO2 [-\]: 9d amateur come from the computer rating for AGA ratings.
Violence [?\]: Myungwan Kim is quite very strong...
Almdudler [3d\]: bi jang owned pros already
Faint31k [1d\]: well then ill watch 
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to Round 3 of the US Open!
USGO2 [-\]: We’re broadcasting live from Portland, Oregon
USGO2 [-\]: The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org
USGO2 [-\]: Time limits are 2 hours basic time, 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
USGO2 [-\]: The weeklong annual U.S. Go Congress is the biggest event on the North American calendar and features a number of tournaments – including the U.S. Open and North American Ing Masters (NAIM) – as well as lectures and simuls with more than a dozen professionals from the United States, Japan, China and Korea.
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;B[dp]C[Yanick [16k\]: and they've started!
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;W[pp]C[Yanick [16k\]: ^^
Astral [2k\]: Is Bi Jang Gentlerain?
Faint31k [1d\]: who needs 2hrs Oo
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;B[dc]C[revival [2d\]: yes
USGO2 [-\]: Click here  http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/pairs-r2.html for the Round 2 pairings and here http://www.usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/42 for the results -- and game records – from the top boards. Photos of the top players in the Open and NAIM are also posted online http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/openplayers.html Click here http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/staff.html to see the E-Journal Congress Team 
Yanick [16k\]: the time isn't running o_O
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;W[qd]C[TireMe [?\]: omg call the cops
Vash3G [-\]: the time wont run on here since it is a demo game
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;B[od]
;W[de]C[Vash3G [-\]: the USGO transcriber will announce the time at diferent intervals
Ardur [8k?\]: Oh, Bi Jang won yesterday?
Singer [10k\]: Woo gentlerain! :D
Email [5k\]: ooooooh, 9d
Hoole3 [9k\]: who is in the lead for this torun?
hakky [-\]: MYGOD ITS BI JANG
hakky [-\]: NO WAY!!
Singer [10k\]: Seems to me that ngiri seems to ALWAYS put the stronger player as black...
addict40 [6k\]: who win 2 turn??
icanfly: what? jang bi?? the famous go player, Bi Jang Bi?
Almdudler [3d\]: gentlerain ftw
Snaga [1d\]: go w
Hoole3 [9k\]: why is he so famos?
Singer [10k\]: bi jang beat tartrate. He is god.
Almdudler [3d\]: jet li takes lessons from him
hakky [-\]: Because he is the first go player who is Bi
Hoole3 [9k\]:  who is tartrate?
icanfly: haha
Singer [10k\]: tartrate is god
Singer [10k\]: Nobody can beat tartrate
Singer [10k\]: It just doesn't work
Email [5k\]: tartrate is sitting ritght beside me :P
addict40 [6k\]: pfffffffff
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;B[ee]C[Hoole3 [9k\]: what level is tartrate?
TireMe [?\]: retard != tartrate
Hoole3 [9k\]: and what is Bi?
hakky [-\]: tartrate is between secondrate and tirthrate
Singer [10k\]: maybe bi jang is tartrate... ooo...
USGO2 [-\]: Our broadcasting team today: Game Recorders: Chris Garlock (Board 1), Todd Heidenreich (Bd 2); Richard Dolen (Bd 3); Casey Alexander (Bd 4); Matthew Heymering (KGS admin); Steve Colburn (IT/back-up). 
theremin [1k\]: haha board 1 and 2 have almost same opening
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;W[cc]C[jankenpopp: it technically is the same..
elohimmeth [2k\]: hehe
Yanick [16k\]: yed, it's just on different positions
theremin [1k\]: not exactly
jankenpopp: well direction wise
jankenpopp: it's different..
theremin [1k\]: 2 oshi still not approached here
Violence [?\]: Black has a hoshi here
theremin [1k\]: yes
Violence [?\]: black has a komoku in the other game.
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;B[dd]C[theremin [1k\]: thx Violence :)
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;W[cd]
;B[ef]C[Astral [2k\]: as black i don't like this joseki...
hakky [-\]: good thing you aint b right
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;W[cf]C[hakky [-\]: c-18 
Thmayu [3d\]: this joseki seems fine to me for black in this position
deft [4d\]: it seems to work well with the P16 stone and B can take sente
hakky [-\]: taking sente here means forever gote
Richdad [5d\]: q14 now?
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;B[fc]C[hakky [-\]: good
apachai31k [-\]: hm
hakky [-\]: taking sente would be ridiculous
Richdad [5d\]: why hakky?
Thmayu [3d\]: nice solid move, the kind of move i wouldn't play:p
Almdudler [3d\]: hakky is 10k
Richdad [5d\]: i dont care, i want to know why
addict40 [6k\]: ahhh
deft [4d\]: hakky is #1 most censored player on KGS
hakky [-\]: its ok to ask me for advice, but try to think of your own
apachai31k [-\]: lol
hakky [-\]: in 1 min i will reveal students
Almdudler [3d\]: hakky, can I be your student?
Beanbag [2d\]: some people think hakky is a dan player
apachai31k [-\]: thank you oh great master
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;W[fq]C[KGSPlus [-\]: please keep comments related to the game
Richdad [5d\]: im not familiar with f17
Richdad [5d\]: isnt it E18 the common move?
Violence [?\]: I guess black doesn't like the peep
Almdudler [3d\]: tobi is never a bad move \\o
deft [4d\]: F17 seems very solid but loses some endgame in the corner compared to E18
icanfly: q14 ?
hakky [-\]: f-16 peep 
hakky [-\]: otherwise
SiBullet [3k\]: h3?
icanfly: is Q14 sente for B?
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;B[cn]C[deft [4d\]: maybe when P16 is so far away it's better to make more shape for the group instead of being greedy
Beanbag [2d\]: yea if b get q14 it normaly be sente
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;W[dr]C[addict40 [6k\]: i love g3
ubergeek [5k\]: nobod played g3...
Beanbag [2d\]: youl see it tenukied sometime  and b go s15 to make dead but w can stil play p18 afterwards
ubergeek [5k\]: *nobody
Richdad [5d\]: but e18 aftects corner too
Astral [2k\]: g3 i played
Thmayu [3d\]: q14 is very big now isn't it
Richdad [5d\]: black can play c13 b12 after c18 b18 b19
Richdad [5d\]: its not "just points" to have E18
Richdad [5d\]: well, he certainly know more than i do.
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;B[pf]C[ubergeek [5k\]: nice thmayu
Beanbag [2d\]: normaly w go r14 i thinc
hakky [-\]: o-17 tesuji
hakky [-\]: o-16
icanfly: tesuji to lose
apachai31k [-\]: fakesuji
hakky [-\]: p-15
hakky [-\]: come on
icanfly: fakesuji is hamete
Violence [?\]: phail suji
Triumph [1d?\]: i think you meant failsuji :)
Beanbag [2d\]: q14 looks very powerful here
deft [4d\]: R14 depends on a ladder, doesn't it? .. and B has good ladder breakers in lower left
Richdad [5d\]: difficult
hakky [-\]: q-14 is just a nuisance not a big problem
hakky [-\]: p-15
addict40 [6k\]: shut up
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;W[kc]C[addict40 [6k\]: hakky
jankenpopp: addict, shhh, hakky probably stronger than you..
hakky [-\]: bi got scared
jankenpopp: or just censor him
Richdad [5d\]: ballsy
deft [4d\]: use the censor function instead of adding to the noise, addict40
hakky [-\]: bi got scared 
hakky [-\]: he is already losing
Beanbag [2d\]: isnt the lader it depends on coming from q13 stone? that would run into f3
Richdad [5d\]: yea but there are ladder breakers beanbag
Richdad [5d\]: g4 is a severe one
deft [4d\]: I said B has good adder breakers, Beanbag
Beanbag [2d\]: yeah ok i c
deft [4d\]: *ladder
hakky [-\]:  i c parix
icanfly: l17 isnt deep inside?
Beanbag [2d\]: w stil have c3 in corner tho
Richdad [5d\]: it is but w cant follow joseki
Beanbag [2d\]: so.. maybe g4 can tenuky
Richdad [5d\]: if he did, the moyo would be too fgood 
icanfly: Rich, it means f3 is not good?
Singer [10k\]: Does bi jang's position actually look worse, or do I just think it does because I'm only 10k?
icanfly: w could just q14 then no need to play l17
hakky [-\]: singer, stop typing start singin'
Richdad [5d\]: well, i would certainly play q14,  because i dont like being put in a position to play L17 ,but if w is comfy with that, f3 is not bad
Beanbag [2d\]: bi seems to be stronger when he is in truble.. maybe he just want to have problems to bring out the power
icanfly: i see,
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;B[ic]C[hakky [-\]: well beanbag if you are not trouble there is no need to play better 
Enraiha [8k\]: good point lol
hakky [-\]: p-17 
Beanbag [2d\]: if u dont play beter u end up in truble..
Richdad [5d\]: w aims at p18 after black s15
TotoroShan [2d\]: p18
Richdad [5d\]: but if black p18, will w r14 and let b make thickness to attack weak group?
hakky [-\]: p-17 followed by o-16
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;W[id]C[hakky [-\]: we all got it wrong we need to read more books
icanfly: lets pay attention and learn sabaki
icanfly: or learn how to attack
Richdad [5d\]: This can turn into a mess, if black cuts
Beanbag [2d\]: w not gona go p18 until after b go s15
kryft [4k\]: Isn't black J17 somewhat overconcentrated?
hakky [-\]: I need someone
Richdad [5d\]: kryft: its the wider space, and also, black n17 is a weird shape
deft [4d\]: cutting inside seems very unreasonable to me, I expect H17
hakky [-\]: l-16 coming up
hakky [-\]: l-16 comeone
kryft [4k\]: Richdad, Yes, I did think that N17 looked even worse. :)
Beanbag [2d\]: b doesnt want to go h17 cause he gots so many stones
bcmstrng [1d\]: l16 is hilarious..
Richdad [5d\]: there are 2 ways to cut
hakky [-\]: haha aint it
deft [4d\]: B doesn't want to cut because it helps W to settle
Richdad [5d\]: the blunt: k17 k16 l16 , and the "stylish"k16 k17 j15 h16 h17 
deft [4d\]: K17 L16 for sure
hakky [-\]: myungwan show us your skillat
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;B[mc]C[hakky [-\]: haha
hakky [-\]: he is so text book 
apachai31k [-\]: interesting
Yanick [16k\]: wouldn't k15 be good? for black
icanfly: is n17 textbook?
hakky [-\]: obviously
apachai31k [-\]: u really taking what hakky says seriously?
hakky [-\]: haha
hakky [-\]: i need someoneeee
deft [4d\]: N17 seems a bit weird because it allows W H17, but B obviously has a plan to counter that
icanfly: why not?
jankenpopp: hakky's underrated :(
icanfly: he seems famous
jankenpopp: poor hakky, go back to using guest names
deft [4d\]: maybe B will K17 if W plays H17
apachai31k [-\]: ure new to kibitz i see
icanfly: im
Beanbag [2d\]: maby n17 is plan for go s15 and eat corner bigly
hakky [-\]: being guest in my own house is tres ridicule
USGO2 [-\]: Because of the interrupted Ing game last night, five players – including Mingjiu Jiang – will have to finish their games this afternoon after the US Open Round, then play Round 3 of the Ing tonight at 7P EST.
Richdad [5d\]: hard to kill that corner with one move
Beanbag [2d\]: w cant expect much teritory and b grupes good shape due to f17
Singer [10k\]: Why was it interrupted?
Beanbag [2d\]: wel n17 maby has helpment against p18.. he might be able to force against l17 a little more also
icanfly: a player escaped
hakky [-\]: noo
hakky [-\]: i need someone
Richdad [5d\]: p18 can still be played
Almdudler [3d\]: w00t
jankenpopp: find white tesuji!
Almdudler [3d\]: w resigns
Beanbag [2d\]: w go h17 for sure
Singer [10k\]: K10 looks pretty huge right now...
Astral [2k\]: can white live in the corner?
Cassis0 [3d\]: n17 fini de plaisanter
jankenpopp: astral, it's 3-4, so yes
deft [4d\]: R16 stone is very hard to kill even if B gets one more move
Beanbag [2d\]: whats a good forcing move to chose? make p18 not work? 
Astral [2k\]: ok
AmyLouLou [9k\]: wow
AmyLouLou [9k\]: this match will be nasty
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;W[lc]C[Billy504 [7k\]: m17 looks slow
Beanbag [2d\]: maby w go h17 now?
Beanbag [2d\]: b go i mean
unknown22: H16?
Beanbag [2d\]: i gues that leave w to play m15
apachai31k [-\]: n16 good enough?
addict40 [6k\]: black can take the corner
Beanbag [2d\]: i dont thinc now is the time to go for the corner
Richdad [5d\]: m17 very interesting move! If black played N16, w could h17 and still have p18 aji
icanfly: n18 then?
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to Round 3 of the US Open!
USGO2 [-\]: We’re broadcasting live from Portland, Oregon
USGO2 [-\]: The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org
Beanbag [2d\]: whers myungwan from?
USGO2 [-\]: Time limits are 2 hours basic time, 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
Yanick [16k\]: didn't we have this introduction before?
USGO2 [-\]: The weeklong annual U.S. Go Congress is the biggest event on the North American calendar and features a number of tournaments – including the U.S. Open and North American Ing Masters (NAIM) – as well as lectures and simuls with more than a dozen professionals from the United States, Japan, China and Korea.
USGO2 [-\]: Click here  http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/pairs-r2.html for the Round 2 pairings and here http://www.usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/42 for the results -- and game records – from the top boards. Photos of the top players in the Open and NAIM are also posted online http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/openplayers.html Click here http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/staff.html to see the E-Journal Congress Team 
Astral [2k\]: who won last year?
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, you did see this introduction a little while ago.  I will be reposting it occasionally for the benefit of the newcomers to the game.
Beanbag [2d\]: thancs usgo2
Yanick [16k\]: ok, thanks USGO2
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;B[md]
;W[hc]C[Yanick [16k\]: oeh, a move!
Beanbag [2d\]: gues its hard for b to decide what to do// looks like a nice result for w
kirigo: h16 ?
Cassis0 [3d\]: hard to kill r16
FuriKuri [2d\]: like s 14?
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;B[re]C[AutoAtari [3k?\]: pros can do hard things
Beanbag [2d\]: w can go p18 when the time comes
Billy504 [7k\]: p18 lives?
icanfly: s15 interesting
Beanbag [2d\]: s15 not look exceptional y happy
addict40 [6k\]: black take a big corner
icanfly: w will let r16 as it is
Beanbag [2d\]: p18 make b corner little
MatchFree [-\]: q14 shape has bad aji
icanfly: c8 ?
FuriKuri [2d\]: not all that big, because w has nice reduction
icanfly: i would c8 now
Astral [2k\]: white can't tenuki
icanfly: or c3
MatchFree [-\]: so black spend a lot of stones for not even a whole corner
FuriKuri [2d\]: i would go c3 oO
Astral [2k\]: yes but seems huge no?
icanfly: or r6
icanfly: c8, c3 or r6
icanfly: r6 seems the best
ikami [1d\]: maybe the 8p read p18 o18 or something the kill W
ikami [1d\]: then *
MatchFree [-\]: still ikami.. the corner has a lot of aji
Cephi [6k?\]: what are the time constraints like for these games?
Singer [10k\]: WHo won last year?
Beanbag [2d\]: no amount of reading can make stone without libs remain on board
scaredycat [6k?\]: 2 hours each main time
icanfly: Yongfei Ge won
Cephi [6k?\]: absolute?  no byo-yomi?
Singer [10k\]: What rank is he?
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei Ge 7d was the winner of last year's US Open.
scaredycat [6k?\]: then 5 byo-yomi 30 seconds ( i think?)
Cephi [6k?\]: thx
scaredycat [6k?\]: np
icanfly: Yongfei is playin on board 3
icanfly: rightnow
USGO2 [-\]: Time limits are 2 hours basic time, 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
scaredycat [6k?\]: us 6? have to stick together lol
Cephi [6k?\]: lol
ikami [1d\]: is tongfei ge live in canada ?
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;W[qk]C[ikami [1d\]: yongfei ge *
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;B[ib]
;W[hb]
;B[hd]C[Beanbag [2d\]: does this sequence kill r16 aji?
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan Kim is an 8-dan Professional currently residing in Los Angeles, CA.
Astral [2k\]: how old?
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, Yongfei Ge is from Canada.
theremin [1k\]: 30years old
Almdudler [3d\]: so old?
theremin [1k\]: not sure
Almdudler [3d\]: 30 yrs is really old ~~
theremin [1k\]: hum ... I'm 31 :'(
Beanbag [2d\]: no it isnt u guys are nuts
Astral [2k\]: white has to play K17 no?
theremin [1k\]: he's very young :)
Beanbag [2d\]: bi seems more yunger tho
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;W[ie]C[theremin [1k\]: he already won agasint lee sedol :)
Farouche [-\]: who did?
icanfly: Bi Jang Bi?
theremin [1k\]: no
Astral [2k\]: Bi won against Lee Sedol really? 
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;B[gc]C[theremin [1k\]: Kim
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;W[he]C[Astral [2k\]: ok
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;B[gd]C[theremin [1k\]: Kim Myungwan
MssrBlanc [4k\]: is myungwan settling in USA? 
icanfly: w sente again
Farouche [-\]: depending on how long he's been living in the US, it might be not that much an achievement (like if he beat him 10 years ago)
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;W[ka]C[icanfly: wha?
mrkibbles [1d?\]: eh
telchar [1k?\]: lovely
Cephi [6k?\]: these plays white has got are a craziness
t0Strong4u [-\]: lol
Farouche [-\]: cool move
icanfly: im sure the stone slipped off his fingers
t0Strong4u [-\]: whats this move do
mahatma [1k\]: thats a cool move
NateC [1d\]: Makes us question our sanity
Almdudler [3d\]: I feel sorry for gentlerain
FuriKuri [2d\]: can go O 18 now oO
mahatma [1k\]: gentlerain=bi jang?
Farouche [-\]: and K17 still sente
mrkibbles [1d?\]: superamazing
mate105 [2d\]: for an eye?
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan Kim 8p is from Seoul, South Korea, born February 2, 1978.  He earned professional rank in 1994.  He placed second in the 12 BC Card Cup.
Uberdude [2d\]: tartaric had a move like this recently
Cephi [6k?\]: I'm not going to encourage this madness by spectating any longer
USGO2 [-\]: Additional information about all of the professionals at the US Go Congress can be found at  http://www.gocongress08.org/pros.php.
GocchiSama [2k\]: thank you
icanfly: became pro at 16
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;B[nb]C[deft [4d\]: it's clear what the threat is in the left direction, but not in the right...
apachai31k [-\]: hm
USGO2 [-\]: Feng Yun 9p has stopped by to observe the game for a few moments.
deft [4d\]: it seems it had something to do with life in the corner
thelaurat: very strange move
mahatma [1k\]: what's wrong with just decending to n18?
Richdad [5d\]: it threaten o18 itself
Beanbag [2d\]: now b corner is big tho
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;W[rg]C[deft [4d\]: but O18 N18, not clear how W could live
icanfly: b played a thousand of stones to get that corner
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;B[qe]C[Richdad [5d\]: q18 deft
Beanbag [2d\]: ahh wow. w is swarming from all sides
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;W[nq]C[deft [4d\]: and that is alive?
icanfly: w is better imho
GocchiSama [2k\]: USGO2 your link doesn't work
Beanbag [2d\]: what a crazy move l19 to have this result
mate105 [2d\]: but white also played many stones but not exactly safe
kirigo: s4 ?
Richdad [5d\]: if w  played r15 would you play at R14?
Richdad [5d\]: or try to kill?
icanfly: w play faster, spreading all over the board
Exception [5k\]: @Gocchi take the dot out of the end og the link
icanfly: but what do i know...
Richdad [5d\]: its difficult. if w  r15, black r14, w certainlylooks alive
USGO2 [-\]: http://www.gocongress08.org/pros.php
TanGeng [1d?\]: wow white's efficient
Farouche [-\]: I think W is better
deft [4d\]: yes, I agree - but it's quite deep what happens if B resist with S14
Richdad [5d\]: yea, not simple
deft [4d\]: but it looks like it would go well for W
scaredycat [6k?\]: how much time left does each player have?
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;B[cq]C[deft [4d\]: so L19 seems very good
icanfly: whats up with Maeda's picture? lol
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;W[hp]C[apachai31k [-\]: c3 very patient hehe
Richdad [5d\]: people are really anime in japan, icanfly
mahatma [1k\]: he looks like that in real life
Richdad [5d\]: i feel w has good flow
Richdad [5d\]: he was quite sucessful in the sabaki
icanfly: oh, then i would love to know some of the japanese girls, Richdad lol
Farouche [-\]: the Force is strong in gentlerain
t0Strong4u [-\]: great shape for w, the o3 stone is working prefectly
Beanbag [2d\]: yesterdays game against mage was sensational
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 93 minutes remaining, B: 80 minutes.
Farouche [-\]: on which board was it played Beanbag?
Beanbag [2d\]: 2
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;B[jq]C[Farouche [-\]: thank you
scaredycat [6k?\]: many thanks usgo2
Richdad [5d\]: Who is this bi jang that can fight pros so well
Beanbag [2d\]: i thnc
Richdad [5d\]: K3 is clear " im unhappy" move
t0Strong4u [-\]: ....isn't bi = gentle
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;W[iq]C[sensei418 [9k\]: gentlerain 
ikami [1d\]: yes
Beanbag [2d\]: yea he gentle
Richdad [5d\]: that doenst tell me why he can play pros like this
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;B[jo]C[t0Strong4u [-\]: mayb because he play better on board, not online
Farouche [-\]: what's BBW real name?
Blockdude [3k\]: becuase he is strong
sensei418 [9k\]: i meet he a few weeks ago very nice person too 
MssrBlanc [4k\]: bi jang was once 14th amateur in korea
MssrBlanc [4k\]: former insei
Richdad [5d\]: thats the info i wanted
Blockdude [3k\]: he plays fine online
Richdad [5d\]: how old is he now?
Blockdude [3k\]: when he first made gentlerain i thought he was unbeatable
Blockdude [3k\]: won like his first 8 games
NateC [1d\]: 56, I believe
icanfly: no way
icanfly: there was a pic of bi jang bi on XY tournament
icanfly: he is younger
sensei418 [9k\]: he is only like maybe 30 
sensei418 [9k\]: or so 
NateC [1d\]: Whoops, sorry
]
;W[cr]C[sensei418 [9k\]: your thinking of his teacher sensei Han
Richdad [5d\]: c2 very gentle, w feeling comfortable too
Richdad [5d\]: i would have h6 first though
Uberdude [2d\]: or j6
]
;B[ir]C[Richdad [5d\]: maybe. considering w wants simple, h6 is the substitute for c2
]
;W[hr]
;B[ha]
;W[ke]C[Richdad [5d\]: hte problem with that keima is that even though its ahead from b, its not right direction
Richdad [5d\]: b makes wall to inved r6
Richdad [5d\]: w makes wall for c8?
Richdad [5d\]: worthless
]
;B[ld]
;W[kd]C[Uberdude [2d\]: hmm i wonder if w should have j19
Uberdude [2d\]: b has a target to attack now
]
;B[ih]C[Richdad [5d\]: when, uber?
Richdad [5d\]: instead of o3?
Uberdude [2d\]: yes
apachai31k [-\]: hoho
Uberdude [2d\]: or play o3 at c3
Uberdude [2d\]: and if b answer at c9 you get sente for j19
Uberdude [2d\]: L15 is nice looking shape but overconcentrated
Uberdude [2d\]: b strong on both sides a pleasant attack now
Beanbag [2d\]: w shape is not overconcentrated
Uberdude [2d\]: L15 at m15?
deft [4d\]: W has a lot of eyeshape if he plays K17
Beanbag [2d\]: require to examin the exchanges that led to that shape
deft [4d\]: so the attack doesn't seem very severe
deft [4d\]: W could tenuki and survive Lee Sedol style ;)
Richdad [5d\]: lets hope he doesnt have to play k17: )
Richdad [5d\]: l12 feels the most natural move here
Beanbag [2d\]: i like the tenuki idea
Uberdude [2d\]: could c8?
deft [4d\]: C8 feels natural to me :)
Beanbag [2d\]: that would make it realy hard for b
Beanbag [2d\]: what do players look like now?
hard0gay [14k?\]: like me
Richdad [5d\]: c8 interesting too
Beanbag [2d\]: doubt it
Richdad [5d\]: i really dont like the black l13 w k17 exchange
bcmstrng [1d\]: l12 is natural
feh42: why isn't anyone making a move?
Uberdude [2d\]: well black isn;t making a move because it is white's turn
]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]
;W[kh]C[Uberdude [2d\]: strange exchange, though i suppose it stops b attacking shape
feh42: duh
Beanbag [2d\]: yeah ur right rdad. l13 woulda ben good for b
USGO2 [-\]: Watch the top 4 boards LIVE on KGS now. Up to date photos and all congress updates on http:///www.usgo.org
Richdad [5d\]: i dont get h13 at all
Richdad [5d\]: w wanted to make black heavy?
]
;B[ch]C[bcmstrng [1d\]: c12 is huge... 
Beanbag [2d\]: w position looks lots gooder thn it did around this point in yesterdays game
]
;W[db]C[USGO2 [-\]: Guo Juan 5p has stopped by to watch the game.
Astral [2k\]: here i prefer black
]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]
;B[jh]C[feh42: h6
]
;W[jg]
;B[li]
;W[ig]C[Beanbag [2d\]: hm maybe w shoulda tenukyd afterall
Farouche [-\]: S13 was good
feh42: that was made a looong time ago...
Beanbag [2d\]: maybe badwolf wil have something enlightenly to say
]
;B[gh]C[feh42: h6 is good?
Beanbag [2d\]: yea h6
Farouche [-\]: quite urgent
Harleqin [2d\]: N12 seems urgent, too
Laeme [2d?\]: left side might become pretty big
Laeme [2d?\]: if b adds a move
]
;W[hn]C[Laeme [2d?\]: w agrees ^^
Beanbag [2d\]: h6 goodest cause it keep the left in control and has pressure on b k5
Laeme [2d?\]: the word is 'best'
AutoAtari [3k?\]: good - better - best
bcmstrng [1d\]: no, i like the word goodest
Laeme [2d?\]: it's irregular, but you gotta live with it :)
Farouche [-\]: Goodest sounds gooder though
Singer [10k\]: WHo is winning?
Beanbag [2d\]: nope.. i dont gota live with it
Beanbag [2d\]: refuse to use dorky words!!!
]
;B[lf]C[Laeme [2d?\]: well, you're obviously free to do whatever you want
Laeme [2d?\]: just checking wether you didn't know or was protesting something ^^
Farouche [-\]: were* :p
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 79 minutes remaining, B: 67 minutes.
Laeme [2d?\]: yeah, I saw it too, my english sucks :(
Laeme [2d?\]: not native speaker and all
]
;W[mh]
;B[mi]C[Laeme [2d?\]: anyway, I like black so far
DrTenma [2d?\]: so bad for w
nijn12: why didnt black cut at L13?
Astral [2k\]: i can still
jankenpopp: c8 possible for white if he didnt have to take care of this top group?
]
;W[nh]
;B[ni]C[Laeme [2d?\]: I'd focus on bottom right more now, b would like to invade there
Laeme [2d?\]: well, I would like to invade there if I would be b :)
]
;W[le]C[Astral [2k\]: perhaps not necessary 
Uberdude [2d\]: b didn't give many points for this wall
Uberdude [2d\]: now he is thick will have some good yose
Uberdude [2d\]: easy to invade
Astral [2k\]: f7?
]
;B[pi]C[unknown22: r6
andrewgr [2k\]: r6 leaves invasion for ko at r3
Beanbag [2d\]: w might be able to protct against r3 with pressure on k5
]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]C[Triforce [6k?\]: no time for r6 now, isnt n14 a thread to kill whites upper group?
Beanbag [2d\]: no w grupe alive
Triforce [6k?\]: sure?
Beanbag [2d\]: yes h17 aji ensures 2 eyes
feh42: h17 group is dead
andrewgr [2k\]: that's why it has aji
Singer [10k\]: Who's winning now?
Astral [2k\]: black
]
;W[dm]
;B[cm]C[apachai31k [-\]: w not worried about n14?
Beanbag [2d\]: no. n14 wont kill w
Triforce [6k?\]: no, beanbag is right, i checked it
Uberdude [2d\]: c2 looks a little bad now
Uberdude [2d\]: in that its follow up is c8 to attack the group
elahrairah [3k\]: n14 would be responded as follows, I believe: l14 k14 k17 k15 k18 j19 m18 
Uberdude [2d\]: but now w feels he needsto reduce so b gets safe base
softstorm [1k\]: 8P play 9D should be very simple, right?
Beanbag [2d\]: yea it woulda been gooder to tenuki j12 huh
avatar1 [3d\]: i think n14 k14 
Beanbag [2d\]: no it doesnt look very simple softstorm
softstorm [1k\]: why?
Beanbag [2d\]: w power runs deeply
nijn12: ko for live I think
sotos [2k\]: if w gets r6 area he will have a very good chance
Beanbag [2d\]: w using pressure on k5 to protect on right side
]
;W[im]
;B[mp]
;W[mq]C[Farouche [-\]: W's position looks superior to B's
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 64 minutes remaining, B: 57 minutes.
Hikaruwaya [3k\]: l12 alive?
Beanbag [2d\]: yes l12 alive
]
;B[lq]C[Farouche [-\]: can't help but to think that W can't lose if he playes R5
Farouche [-\]: plays*
]
;W[lp]C[Uberdude [2d\]: d9 ?
USGO2 [-\]: btw, there's some sort of construction going on right outside the playing room; beeping bobcats and loud engines. windows are open for fresh air so it's like having them in the room with us
Beanbag [2d\]: ouch thats terible
Wurzelpi [11k\]: :(
Snaga [1d\]: who needs fresh air? just close windows
manestor [7k\]: m5  squeeze?
USGO2 [-\]: It is rather loud.  Lots of engine noise and loud beeping as the bobcats are backing up.
simplemin [5k\]: any rain in the forecast?
USGO2 [-\]: Bi Jang has gotten up for his first break away from the board.
Beanbag [2d\]: u should grab a slingshot and pelt em with go stoans
USGO2 [-\]: I don't think there is any rain expected soon.
simplemin [5k\]: construction...
]
;B[kp]C[Uberdude [2d\]: what is a bobcat?
]
;W[lo]
;B[kr]C[Beanbag [2d\]: its one of those machine things they use to dig holes and stuf
simplemin [5k\]: not for whole digging
USGO2 [-\]: What worries me is they are marking the pavement with paint denoting underground utility lines as if they are going to be doing some digging. :(
simplemin [5k\]: it has a bucket  on the front
Richdad [5d\]: hard to call bs wall unsatisfactory
Wurzelpi [11k\]: for concrete
]
;W[dl]C[Uberdude [2d\]: oh it is like hoover
Uberdude [2d\]: a particvualr brand of what in england we call mini diggers
USGO2 [-\]: These bobcats have forklifts on the front to move concrete barriers around.
simplemin [5k\]: laying conduit?
Uberdude [2d\]: n ko?
nijn12: usgo2 should be banned, talking about bobcats and such
simplemin [5k\]: guests...
]
;B[cl]C[Chris929 [14k\]: i hate guests...
badukluv [2k\]: ^_^
badukluv [2k\]: better be nice to the guest...
]
;W[ri]C[kyosuke [-\]: how much time do they have left?
late6k: h
]
;B[mr]
;W[nr]C[badukluv [2k\]: no two eyes yet
]
;B[qm]C[USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 60 minutes remaining, B: 48 minutes.
Hikaruwaya [3k\]: this also big
badukluv [2k\]: seems like...
Singer [10k\]: Can bi jang kill L2 if he attacks it?
Beanbag [2d\]: no
Beanbag [2d\]: chuck norris could tho
Chrom [3k\]: chuck norris gave up playing go, he didn´t like to make prisoners
Chrom [3k\]: sorry
Uberdude [2d\]: s11 seems a little greedy?
Wurzelpi [11k\]: is it becaus l3 is an eye as long as k2 remains black and another eye in row 1 is shure ?
rvf [2k\]: no
nijn12: L2 is ko for live me think
]
;W[ol]C[nijn12: but plenty of ko threats with W K13 group
Beanbag [2d\]: l2 not gona need ko to live
nijn12: whats the sequence?
]
;B[qp]C[Beanbag [2d\]: beats me
Beanbag [2d\]: here.. b will add a move once he is cut off from the wall
Beanbag [2d\]: right now b is not sealed in so there is no death threat
Beanbag [2d\]: impossible to prevent b from conecting to safety cause of thic wall and n4 aji
badukluv [2k\]: aha!
Farouche [-\]: I really don't know how ot answer this
nickwasy [12k\]: is white unconditionally alive in the top center?
Beanbag [2d\]: yes w is alive
nickwasy [12k\]: ok thanks
Beanbag [2d\]: lol ur the 4th person to ask
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 52 minutes remaining, B: 46 minutes.
nickwasy [12k\]: sorry, I was gone and not about to read through the whole thing
Capsule [3d\]: i talked with Jang Bi a few minutes ago, he was feeling quite good.
Beanbag [2d\]: he doesnt mind the cacophony?
Capsule [3d\]: cacophony?
Astral [2k\]: noise
Beanbag [2d\]: yea. bobcats n stuf
Capsule [3d\]: not much noise in the strong player's room i think
badukluv [2k\]: today Lee chang ho become "king  of  kings" in korean tournament
Beanbag [2d\]: hm the plot thicens
Astral [2k\]: i still prefer black
Capsule [3d\]: i like black too
Capsule [3d\]: i can't see more than 30 points for W excluding komi
Capsule [3d\]: but b's top right corner is near 20
TarasBob [8k\]: so this game is 9dan against 8 professional dan?
Astral [2k\]: and you tell us that Bi is still confident?^^
Beanbag [2d\]: he has faced such oponents before
Astral [2k\]: yes right
Beanbag [2d\]: game looks close to me
Beanbag [2d\]: se says b by 14.5
nickwasy [12k\]: SE says W is dead on top, though
Beanbag [2d\]: 14.5 not my idea of close
nijn12: no but SE presumes K13 is dead
nickwasy [12k\]: iif you convince SE that white is alive up there, it says W+21.5
Beanbag [2d\]: game looks close to me
Kaydat [3k\]: this is the critical area
]
;W[qo]
;B[ro]
;W[qq]
;B[rp]
;W[po]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]
;B[rl]C[Singer [10k\]: They seem to be playing rather fast for a critical area...
]
;W[rk]C[jandrews [1k\]: SE is really just spouting pure nonsense for these games - on board three it was off by 7 points when everything was done but dame.
]
;B[rr]C[nickwasy [12k\]: perhaps they both read it out already
]
;W[rs]
;B[qn]C[Beanbag [2d\]: keep a little room in your heart for some nonsense
Singer [10k\]: Can w make a ko in the corner? Or is it alive?
Astral [2k\]: alive
AutoAtari [3k?\]: I'd try t7
Singer [10k\]: If it's alive, has w lost?
jankenpopp: probably not
bcmstrng [1d\]: w has a problem...
jandrews [1k\]: I don't think W has lost yet - but it seems pretty hard for W - he doesn't have anywhere to make real territory
Beanbag [2d\]: b wal anoying
]
;W[on]C[Beanbag [2d\]: b can tenuky
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 38 minutes remaining, B: 45 minutes
apachai31k [-\]: o1
Beanbag [2d\]: b probably want to play something more enterprising than o1
Beanbag [2d\]: looks like b has a confortable lead
trixxer [3k\]: d9?
TarasBob [8k\]: so I guess amateurs have no chance against professionals
jankenpopp: ...
]
;B[dk]C[Beanbag [2d\]: thats just not true taras
softstorm [1k\]: B is winning
KneDa [2k\]: and n1 now?
hikaru2 [9k\]: hi
Gay [4d\]: hi 
Beanbag [2d\]: hi
]
;W[bg]C[Beanbag [2d\]: b13 so big
]
;B[hs]C[hikaru2 [9k\]: b12
]
;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[bh]
;B[gr]
;W[fr]
;B[hq]C[Beanbag [2d\]: totaly boneless
Yanick [16k\]: black should just play F1 and get it over with
Yanick [16k\]: oh
]
;W[eo]C[FennecFox [2k\]: is b trying to make b2 sente?
FennecFox [2k\]: or is aiming to make points in the center?
Beanbag [2d\]: no
FennecFox [2k\]: this seems futile to me, a very hard kill
Uberdude [2d\]: b gained some points already
]
;B[me]C[Beanbag [2d\]: they are just playing yose
FennecFox [2k\]: this is yose?  seems to me the area around G9 is still up for grabs
Beanbag [2d\]: how is n15 sente?
Beanbag [2d\]: yes this is yose
]
;W[mf]
;B[nf]
;W[mg]C[Uberdude [2d\]: n15 may not be sente but n14 in sente is oto big
Uberdude [2d\]: so w reverse sente
Beanbag [2d\]: yea bigness
calgacus [?\]: o-yose
]
;B[cj]
;W[do]
;B[co]
;W[fl]C[Jump [6k\]: yose can you see!
jankenpopp: b2
jankenpopp: sente too much work
]
;B[fk]
;W[gk]
;B[el]
;W[em]
;B[ek]
;W[gl]
;B[bi]
;W[ms]
;B[ip]
;W[ec]
;B[ed]
;W[eb]
;B[ho]
;W[br]C[USGO2 [-\]: Bi shaking his head
jankenpopp: it's cause he agrees with me :P
MrShintou [-\]: last time he shoot his head he got a lot of points.
MrShintou [-\]: shook*
Beanbag [2d\]: is he sighing today?
calgacus [?\]: i too find w's yose strange.
jankenpopp: but b2 is no joke for white.. why shake his head?
Beanbag [2d\]: b2 is definitely big
]
;B[be]C[jankenpopp: maybe he wanted to keep following up on top?
]
;W[df]C[cblau: w is ahead by at least 10 pts?
cblau: err i meant b, sorry
Beanbag [2d\]: not so many
]
;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[eg]C[MrShintou [-\]: white gets sente for 4 points.
]
;W[dh]
;B[ci]
;W[gj]C[Farouche [-\]: their yose always amazes me
]
;B[lr]C[Singer [10k\]: Isn't M2 2 point gote?
]
;W[fi]C[Beanbag [2d\]: no its more and reverse sente
Uberdude [2d\]: it makes b moves like m6 work
SLuck [6k\]: whats reverse sente?
Jump [6k\]: activates n6 stone as well
Uberdude [2d\]: a gote move for you that is sente for opp
]
;B[nm]C[calgacus [?\]: 5 point reverse sente
kvschoolo: no chance for white
SLuck [6k\]: so it is a cool way to say gote?
Uberdude [2d\]: no
kvschoolo: crushed like hell
Uberdude [2d\]: because most gote are not sente for your opp
kvschoolo: black too strong
]
;W[om]
;B[lm]C[Uberdude [2d\]: it is a special type of gote
calgacus [?\]: double value
kvschoolo: calm and collected
FennecFox [2k\]: it's a gote move that takes away a threat from your opponent
XY0908 [-\]: What is reverse Gote which is Gote for your opponent?
FennecFox [2k\]: rather than a gote move that gives you points
]
;W[mn]C[Uberdude [2d\]: double value assuming a continuous scale of available yose plays =)
]
;B[ln]
;W[mo]C[Uberdude [2d\]: xy, that is called double gote i think
Beanbag [2d\]: or just plain sente for u
]
;B[bq]
;W[aq]C[XY0908 [-\]: I like double cream Brie.
]
;B[ep]C[Uberdude [2d\]: ooh w not 2 defineiteeys
Beanbag [2d\]: this cut 
USGO2 [-\]: Kim nodding
XY0908 [-\]: nodding in what manner?
Beanbag [2d\]: b probably satisfied
XY0908 [-\]: self approvingly?
USGO2 [-\]: like, "uh huh, I see"
ManWithHat [3k\]: how much time left?
Beanbag [2d\]: no f4 can conect
nijn12: maybe O7 and N7 preparation
nijn12: for big kill
USGO2 [-\]: kim muttering under his breath
]
;W[go]
;B[fp]
;W[fs]
;B[fo]
;W[io]
;B[fn]C[Farouche [-\]: hu
XY0908 [-\]: Has Bi been being quiet throughout the whole game?
Beanbag [2d\]: hm no eat e5
Rodolphe [3d\]: ???
Laeme [2d?\]: ?
Beanbag [2d\]: want sente i guess
Farouche [-\]: this is getting perverted
badukluv [2k\]: gosh!!!
kvschoolo: GAME OVER
badukluv [2k\]: kim is killer , assassin
Farouche [-\]: that's freaking stupid
Jump [6k\]: white Just got sliced
Laeme [2d?\]: so, does that group have eyes?
calgacus [?\]: big trouble in little asia
kvschoolo: smashed like potato
USGO2 [-\]: now kim really shaking his head
Beanbag [2d\]: b go for kill?
Beanbag [2d\]: looks hard to kill this
]
;W[jn]C[MrShintou [-\]: white looks fine to me.
FennecFox [2k\]: what was wrong with simply F4?
Beanbag [2d\]: ah b too thin all of a sudden
Beanbag [2d\]: nice
AurelienC [3d\]: e3 
Beanbag [2d\]: duble ponukis overpoer the wall
calgacus [?\]: only b has gained from this action
Beanbag [2d\]: no.
kvschoolo: shaking head?
kvschoolo: why?
AurelienC [3d\]: forget, tired
Beanbag [2d\]: w looks gooder
MssrBlanc [4k\]: in two player game, gooder is goodest
calgacus [?\]:  w loses points and sente
]
;B[ko]C[Tsuijin [1d\]: why not just use better?
SLuck [6k\]: gooder is gooder
]
;W[fm]
;B[gn]C[Malingo [4d\]: better isnt as good as gooder
Tsuijin [1d\]: monster kill?
Shinji [-\]: better is badder
Laeme [2d?\]: the gooder, goodest start to grow on me, away with all irregularities in language!
Beanbag [2d\]: b middle too weak to kill
Tsuijin [1d\]: well I can't see clear life
MrShintou [-\]: j10 
AutoAtari [3k?\]: that's doubleplusungood
Rodolphe [3d\]: k9?
Laeme [2d?\]: yeah, I though about newspeak too :)
Enraiha [8k\]: why didn'y b play F7 beforehand?
]
;W[kl]C[MssrBlanc [4k\]: gote for b, and not enough points, I think
kvschoolo: ha?
kvschoolo: black won easily
Enraiha [8k\]: but isn't it worth more than l5?
kvschoolo: white crushed this game
trixxer [3k\]: j9
kvschoolo: no chnac
kvschoolo: eno hope
]
;B[jk]C[kvschoolo: totally hopeless
trixxer [3k\]: to cut at h7 
kvschoolo: TUTORIAL
MssrBlanc [4k\]: I would guess l5 impacts the life and death..not that I can quite see it
Enraiha [8k\]: hmm ok thanks :)
Beanbag [2d\]: cant b make ko in loer left tho?
Beanbag [2d\]: oh wait no
Beanbag [2d\]: lol
Tsuijin [1d\]: maybe resign incoming
MrShintou [-\]: g7 
Rodolphe [3d\]: M8?
trixxer [3k\]: w must protect h7 cut
Singer [10k\]: Can L6 work for w?
]
;W[jl]C[Beanbag [2d\]: i dont see w grupe being in danger
Beanbag [2d\]: easy alive
]
;B[ik]
;W[gm]C[MrShintou [-\]: maia eyes
MrShintou [-\]: miai
SLuck [6k\]: where?
MrShintou [-\]: k7 h7
zaza [-\]: look again...
Uberdude [2d\]: j8 l7 l6 and false
Beanbag [2d\]: since m7 is not secure enough w never was atact hardly
Khenpachi [8k\]: bJ8?
SLuck [6k\]: k7 false
MrShintou [-\]: its miai eyes.
trixxer [3k\]: h8
scarr [5k?\]: j8 makes eye at h7
trixxer [3k\]: and there is no eye
]
;B[mk]C[scarr [5k?\]: oh.  this is true
Uberdude [2d\]: not miai eyes
Beanbag [2d\]: w could always conect thru m8
Uberdude [2d\]: maybe miai eyes to connect
bagman [4d\]: well w alive
Uberdude [2d\]: so b lets w live and makes a few points
Khenpachi [8k\]: I think w lives
kishambo [4k\]: who leads?
SLuck [6k\]: h8 sente for black?
Uberdude [2d\]: of course j8 lives now
Khenpachi [8k\]: yea
Beanbag [2d\]: m8 n8 n7  and l6 n9 are miai
nijn12: why not H8 first
nidza92 [-\]: how is w alive?
Beanbag [2d\]: but now b got n9
mariosoft [2d\]: j8 
Rodolphe [3d\]: J8 alive
nidza92 [-\]: yes
Beanbag [2d\]: l7 also alive
]
;W[ll]C[nidza92 [-\]: if l7 b h8
]
;B[mm]
;W[ml]
;B[nl]
;W[nk]
;B[nj]
;W[ok]
;B[kn]C[nidza92 [-\]: yes still alive
]
;W[lk]C[nijn12: H8
MrShintou [-\]: h8 begs for deaht.
]
;B[ap]C[Beanbag [2d\]: lol
]
;W[ar]C[TanGeng [1d?\]: except its's alive..
]
;B[cp]C[MrShintou [-\]: h8 for black begs for death.
bagman [4d\]: b wins
AmyLouLou [9k\]: definately
bagman [4d\]: lol se
]
;W[ce]
;B[lb]
;W[jc]C[jandrews [1k\]: se doesn't like stones to live I think
]
;B[gp]
;W[ho]C[bagman [4d\]: ^_*
Lychee [7k\]: se is bad =/
]
;B[km]C[rvf [2k\]: N10?
Rodolphe [3d\]: yes
]
;W[mj]
;B[jm]
;W[il]
;B[oh]C[FennecFox [2k\]: b counting ko threats?
gomate [1d\]: se look quit right now
]
;W[sl]
;B[sm]
;W[sk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 11 minutes remaining, B: 22 minutes.
]
;B[sr]C[Singer [10k\]: Do they have digital game clocks, or are you just making good estimates?
USGO2 [-\]: They are using digital Ing clocks.
AmyLouLou [9k\]: chronos probably =)
MrShintou [-\]: lol @ ing clocks
GeorgeW [-\]: Any expressions on their faces?
Gay [4d\]: b wins?
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are looking relaxed but very concentrated on the board.  Busy counting.
GeorgeW [-\]: Thanks
]
;W[eh]
;B[fh]
;W[ei]
;B[ge]C[Singer [10k\]: b wins by about 10?
MrShintou [-\]: what is komi?
Khenpachi [8k\]: 7.5 i think
USGO2 [-\]: The komi is 7.5 points.
Khenpachi [8k\]: yea, 7.5
rvf [2k\]: ING rules
MrShintou [-\]: its veyr close then.
]
;W[la]
;B[ma]C[xedover [7k?\]: AGA rules
AmyLouLou [9k\]: w can get very close to Jigo
]
;W[qh]
;B[lj]
;W[mk]C[AmyLouLou [9k\]: but more likely than not, won't win
]
;B[in]
;W[hm]
;B[gi]C[USGO2 [-\]: Not Ing rules.  The US Open plays with AGA rules.
]
;W[fj]C[rvf [2k\]: ok
]
;B[hj]
;W[rf]
;B[sf]
;W[sg]
;B[se]
;W[pg]
;B[ng]
;W[kg]
;B[qf]
;W[og]C[MrShintou [-\]: a11 
]
;B[of]C[Xorax [3d\]: hmm, why p13
Xorax [3d\]: gote :|
]
;W[qi]C[Beanbag [2d\]: no
]
;B[gf]C[Beanbag [2d\]: oh i thot u meand p14
MrShintou [-\]: k18 protects 2 sstones in sente.
Xorax [3d\]: ^^
jankenpopp: f18..
Ace [2k\]: B leads by 12
Xorax [3d\]: those 2 stones are protected 
]
;W[gq]C[AmyLouLou [9k\]: seems no way to bring margin under 10 points
unknown22: m1
MrShintou [-\]: i count b ahead by 5.5
Beanbag [2d\]: dont trust se
]
;B[fb]
;W[hr]C[Beanbag [2d\]: se is just for comic relief
]
;B[iq]C[Singer [10k\]: w K18
USGO2 [-\]: Time Check - W: 4 minutes remaining, B: 19 minutes.
jankenpopp: wow
jankenpopp: 0.5 game!
Oame [2k\]: nooot
AmyLouLou [9k\]: do they have bio yomis or absolute time
jankenpopp: could be i think..
Confuse24 [3k\]: byo yomis
]
;W[pj]C[Enraiha [8k\]: i definitely don't think so
]
;B[nn]
;W[no]
;B[ah]
;W[ag]
;B[ai]
;W[kk]
;B[jj]C[MrShintou [-\]: g19 
Beanbag [2d\]: h9
SpiderWeb [3d\]: who is winning?
Over9k [5k\]: r8 
MrShintou [-\]: nm.
Over9k [5k\]: lol
Enraiha [8k\]: l18 seems rather big to me at this point
Khenpachi [8k\]: l18 ?
Beanbag [2d\]: l18 no
Beanbag [2d\]: self atari
AmyLouLou [9k\]: naw
Over9k [5k\]: l18 k18 
AmyLouLou [9k\]: l19 stones live in miai
nijn12: still think B could have finished the game by playing H8
AmyLouLou [9k\]: or h18 stones live
Khenpachi [8k\]: oh I see
GeorgeW [-\]: h8 wouldnt have killed
Over9k [5k\]: e19 looks ok for black
nijn12: move 188 play it out
GeorgeW [-\]: i can see it no need to play it out
scarr [5k?\]: r8?
Over9k [5k\]: r8 is sente
Over9k [5k\]: but small
Over9k [5k\]: maybe save for ko?
Over9k [5k\]: b/c for black it's gote
scarr [5k?\]: right
USGO2 [-\]: White has resigned the game.  Black wins by resignation.
Over9k [5k\]: lol
AmyLouLou [9k\]: good call
Beanbag [2d\]: nice game
USGO2 [-\]: Thank you everyone for watching.
Over9k [5k\]: thanks
Over9k [5k\]: usgo2
AmyLouLou [9k\]: good game, thanks for putting it up USGO
scarr [5k?\]: thanks
Chris929 [14k\]: big thanks to USGO
danteVAM [5k\]: thx
carpenter [7k\]: thx
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